SLKR Counters

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= Tips =
 * Key is too have focus on a tank, either:
 * Fives through hard-coded mechanics
 * Wat tank tech
 * reoccuring taunt like GBA (Brute will get taunt when GBA revives)
 * 5v5 Supreme Leader Kylo Ren Counters
 * Any SLKR(U) counters?
 * Climb in Squad Arena Supreme Leader Kylo Ren Galactic Legend

= Cleanup =
 * Vader/Thrawn + Wat + Pretaunt + flex: Clean-up SLKR in GAC
 * First Order: SLKR cleanup with OG FO
 * JKR: Lone SLKR cleanup - JKR, GMY, Jolee, Bastila, Hermit Yoda

= Mirror =
 * Slower Supreme Leader Kylo Mirror Matches! Does it Matter If Yours Is Slower?
 * The Best SLKR Team For Arena: Ultimate Ability Edition
 * 100% Winrate on SLKR Mirror Matches

= SLKR with double tank = May work with other variations, possibly even better than against double tank.

Double tank (SLKR, KRU, Hux, Red, FOST)
Note:
 * Double-sython is not complete reliable. The strategy to double syphon first before swipe may not work with an opponent with high offense and/or close to same speed. Swipe builds Ultimate quicker and protects your guys, whereas double-syphon means you gain more syphon when you eventually do swipe. You really need 2 turn Ultimate to make the most of it, but if the enemy is wrecking your guys, you won't be able to get to two-turn Ultimate safely. If you are faster or the opponent's offense isn't too high, then it should work, but otherwise it is more risky. Double-syphon with faster enemy with similar offense may be appropriate though.

Videos:
 * Let's talk about SL Kylo Ren mirror matches

SLKR/KRU/Thrawn/Traya/Malak
Works with non-ultimate SLKR, but your SLKR needs to be SLOWER, otherwise SLKR will stun your Malak.

This video leaves out some important detail, but check the comments: SLKR Mirror Matches Made EASY!


 * 1) SLKR aoe focusing KRU
 * 2) Thrawn TM swap Traya
 * 3) Traya isolate FOST
 * 4) Thrawn fracture SLKR. Give CD reduction to Thrawn
 * 5) Malak shock KRU
 * 6) Kill Sith Trooper
 * 7) Kill Hux
 * 8) Kill Fost
 * 9) Keep KRU shocked with Malak while you focus SLKR
 * 10) Kill KRU, if not done via aoe while going after SLKR

When enemy SLKR becomes un-fracture, you may want to use aoe to give Thrawn/Traya/Malak Advantage to keep them around for longer.


 * Climb in Squad Arena Supreme Leader Kylo Ren Galactic Legend

SLKR/KRU/HUX/FOO/Red

 * Works with non-ultimate SLKR
 * SWGOH No Ultimate SLKR vs Ultimate SLKR

SLKR/KRU/HUX/FOO/FOSFTFP

 * Works with non-ultimate SLKR
 * SLKR vs uSLKR?

SLKR/KRU/HUX/Thrawn/Wat

 * Works with non-ultimate SLKR
 * SLKR non ultimate v SLKR ultimate

Traya/Vader/Thrawn + Wat/Malak + Pretaunt
Videos:
 * Vader Vs. SLKR - The complete FO double tank counter guide - SWGOH
 * How To Beat SLKR w/ Vader (F2P Friendly Counter) - Traya, Vader, Wat, Thrawn, Shore vs Double Tank FO
 * R8 SLKR FO Squad Easy Counter w/ Traya Lead & Vader
 * Vader Counter to SLKR with Double Tank - Traya L Vader Thrawn Wat KRU
 * Traya Stomps on SLKR!! Vader is a Must for F2P - Traya, Vader, Thrawn, Malak, Pretaunt

Vader, Thrawn, Wat, BSF, Pretaunt

 * FatPat

Vader, Thrawn, Wat, Malak, Pretaunt
Vader Beats GL Kylo w/ Malak!

GAS lead

 * Extras: Han, Wat, C3PO

Notes:
 * Important: want high offense, low protection (sub 70k) GAS as you want him to go down easily, as SLKR will only Ultimate and AOE when he is up
 * Offense arrow rather than Speed arrow (if you don't mind mod-swapping for GAS 501st)

Versus SLKR + Malak:
 * GAS + Fives cheese their way through SLKR + Malak - requires Hoda.
 * Non-GL counter to this team?

Videos:
 * Counter GL Kylo with JUST 4 Characters! and Counter GL Kylo with 4 Characters! In-depth modding and strategy!
 * Countering SL Kylo Ren: GAS + Fives - More Cheese Anyone?
 * GAS + Fives grate more cheese over SL Kylo Ren and Sith Empire

GAS/Fives/Chewy/Han/C3PO
Modding:
 * Fives must get guard, so prefer Defense primaries
 * GAS should be a glass cannon, so he takes a knee quickly. SLKR only Aoes and Ultimates while GAS is standing

Turn order:
 * 1) Han stun Red. Note: could go straight for FOST, but don't want Red taking turns and building Ultimate.
 * 2) Fives call Assist with Han against FOST
 * 3) C3PO call Assist with Han against FOST
 * 4) Chewy stun FOST
 * 5) Han Deadeye FOST (FOST hopefully dead now)
 * 6) GAS Force Grip KRU
 * 7) C3PO Confuse KRU
 * 8) Chewy AOE Dispell
 * 9) Kill Red
 * 10) Kill Hux
 * 11) Ignore KRU - only reapply Confuse if needed, focus SLKR

Notes:
 * FOO instead of FOST is an easier win, as only need to land one Confuse
 * Try to keep Confusion on KRU at all times
 * Only use Chewy's expel for when KRU has Taunt and Confusion. You don't want him counter-attacking and regaining taunt!
 * Kill SLKR before KRU
 * Fives assist on Han for damage and reduce TM (note: this adds health though, so be careful) OR on Chewie to regen protection OR C3PO to apply Confuse
 * Can also attempt Confuse on SLKR so that he cannot regain advantage
 * Vader instead of fost:
 * Stun Vader AFTER stunning Sith Trooper
 * Vader is higher priority kill than Sith Trooper

Videos:
 * GAS, Fives, Chewie, Han and C-3PO vs SL Kylo Ren
 * Countering SL Kylo Ren: GAS + Fives - More Cheese Anyone? - doesn't cover C3PO, but still relevant
 * SWGOH - Counter GL Kylo with JUST 4 Characters! - doesn't cover C3PO, but still relevant

Example team

 * with Han, C3PO: DarthRader
 * GAS r7
 * Fives r7
 * Han r3
 * Chewbacca r3
 * C3PO r4
 * SLKR counter question

Mods example:
 * DarthRader:
 * GAS r7: 236(79), 64890(524), 95749(31561)
 * Fives r7: 202(67), 61267(3571), 80638(20145)
 * Chewy r3: 242(85), 72586(29434), 68069(15929)
 * Han r3: 255(99), 44961(3546), 51553(12925)
 * C3PO r4: 240(88), 72204(15471), 88345(32720)

GAS/Fives/Wat/Thrawn/Vader

 * e.g. Reiya Cirby - Fives gets tank tech. SLKR hardcoded to go after Fives then Thrawn
 * GAS r7 - 253(96)
 * Thrawn r6 - 326(156)
 * Fives r5 - 183(48)
 * Vader r7 - 254(113)
 * Wat 4* - 220(66)

Videos:
 * Use GAS and Vader Counter to SLKR with consistency! | GAS Fives Vader Thrawn Wat

GAS/Fives/Wat/Thrawn/Armorer
Mods:
 * Thrawn: 264 (94) - 280
 * Armourer: 267 (125) - 282

Turn order:
 * 1) Wat Med Pac Fives
 * 2) Armourer This is the Way KRU
 * 3) Thrawn TM Swap Armourer
 * 4) Armourer Beskar Armour Fives

Videos:
 * Armorer with fives cheese VS Ult SLKR

DR lead
Easily counter almost any SLKR team with no GL's or Wat Tambor!

Videos:
 * Darth Revan Counters Buffed SLKR full FO team

Full Sith Empire
Against lineup with FOO. May not work with double tank?


 * Easy SLKR Counter w/ Darth Revan Sith Empire... NO WAT NEEDED

DR/BSF/Thrawn/GBA/Chewy
vs Full FO: KRU, Red, Hux, FOST


 * e.g. Mon Mahon - guard on DR
 * DR r7 (317)
 * BSF r5 (323-167)
 * Thrawn r3 (308)
 * Chewy r5 (273)
 * GBA r4 (259)

DR/BSF/Wat/Thrawn/GBA

 * Counter galactic legends: SLKR GG B1 Wat GBA and Rey JKR Wat GAS GK both defeated

DR/BSF/Thrawn/GBA/Han

 * Counter to Supreme Leader Kylo works vs FO Officer variants AND the power of a properly modded KRU - Jun 12, 2020

DR/BSF/Malak/Thrawn + Pretaunt

 * Pretaunt usually KRU or GBA - KRU better as Brute too weak

Videos:
 * Counter Guide: Darth Revan vs SLKR (Including Malak Squads!)
 * Darth Revan Counters Buffed SLKR full FO team

With Fives/Barriss/Arc/Echo

 * The Cheesemaster Returns with Rex + Fives vs SL Kylo Ren
 * Captain Rex Lead with Clones and NO LEGENDARIES Beats Supreme Leader Kylo Ren! Best SLKR Counter!
 * Rex Lead Clones + Barriss Defeat Supreme Leader Kylo Ren

Bastila, JKR, GAS, GK, GMY
Bastila JKR GAS GK Hoda vs Ult SLKR GG DR GBA Malak

Bastila, JKR, GAS, GK, Hoda
Bastila Jedi Crush Ultimate Kylo!

JKR lead
With JKL, Bastilla, Hoda + Jedi Tank

Padme lead

 * Droideka One Shots Malak and Burns Down SLKR!

= SLKR with Sith Empire =

GAS/Fives/Chewy/Han/Wat
This only works well if Fives still gets guard, which is difficult unless your Wat is reliced!

Turn order:
 * 1) Weapons tech on Han
 * 2) Stun Hux
 * 3) Tank tech on Fives
 * 4) Focus Hux
 * 5) Focus Malak
 * 6) Focus BSF
 * 7) Focus DR (will equalise health with SLKR, which is great)
 * 8) Focus SLKR

Notes: - Use Wat to cleanse Shock, etc. - Don't really need med tech on Chewy

Videos:
 * GAS + Fives grate more cheese over SL Kylo Ren and Sith Empire

GAS/Fives/Chewy/Han/Vader
https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/ls55su/slkr_and_jml_non_gl_counters/gop6pcv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 - however, very difficult to keep guard on Fives rather than Vader!

GAS/Fives/Thrawn/Wat/Vader
https://swgoh.gg/p/128331493/

= 3v3 = Three team strategy is most reliable - assuming SLKR and KRU + 1, without KRU, perhaps don't need filler or cleanup:
 * 1) Filler team (consume first round of cool downs)
 * 2) GAS/5s/Chewie (first attempt, 60-70% chance)
 * 3) Cleanup team:
 * Thrawn + 2, ideally pretaunt and big damage dealer like Vader
 * CLS/Chewpio/Han
 * DR/BSF/Malak


 * How do you counter GL Kylo in 3v3?
 * How to you take out GL Kylo 3v3? Even if it takes 2 shots.
 * 3v3 SLK Counters!!
 * Slkr 3v3 counter

Cleanup

 * CLS, Chewpio, Han: Clean up aisle SLKR -- Handling Kylo in 3v3! - assuming you've used GAS, Fives, Chewy counter
 * DR/BSF/Malak: How to finish GL Kylo?

GAS, Fives, Chewy
= More videos =
 * SLKR counters